Der Langrisser english patched

Patch has entered public release and so this thread has been locked.

please report bugs / feature request in the live thread at 
https://www.zeldix.net/t2675-der-langrisser-ii

Spoiler:

Nice, I deleted the patch I posted to avoid confusion

dunno whether there are no-loop tracks

there's likely just a couple. i'll sort that out at some point if nobody else does.

Hello I had some time of not passing by here, I have seen that you have tried to review this rom and I thank you for trying.

I have seen the music of the rom follows this order (https://www.zophar.net/music/nintendo-snes-spc/der-langrisser), so I have given myself the task of making a match with the list of that page.

I leave the file with the complete OST for that rom.

There are difference with a few tracks with the Megadrive. 39 on Snes and 32 on Megadrive. Thank you and I hope this file is of some use.

The files are in Wav format. I think that some files needs normalization on the audio.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/v11m05d8yl15r3z/Langrisser+2+OST+Snes+jerrymh.rar/file

I have a question?
I have the anime style FMV intro for this game.
Is there a way to put it at the start of the game?
What formats and resolutions do romhacks use for MSU1?

There's two ways of achieving that. The first way would be out of reach for most people here, in that you could port the original FMV. You'd get full screen video, but you're essentially limited to 15 FPS and also limited colours, as everything has to be tile optimised.

Or you can use ikari's video player. There's a tutorial here. You can achieve near enough to full colour 30 FPS using this method, but the main issue is that you can't get full screen video and the output is limited to a letterboxed format, so full screen 4:3 video can look a little bit squashed, but the result is usually good enough.

The MSU file that's generated contains the FMV and can be used with the hack. Cubear or Conn should be able to insert it at the appropriate point. I've already converted some.

This is the first FMV intro from the Saturn version: https://mega.nz/file/tjowACIb#RY8KFHmeSR4FgT7T9-UbnxMDdYjma-D64h59-JoXgrU

Second intro, Saturn version: https://mega.nz/file/kjQDxK6L#mD0Fnlvws2jzFEgaqRNihVxGjHV-wQw1fK9bjEkWaVg

Second intro, PC-FX version: https://mega.nz/file/tyoD0ZJI#XvgMe-jqD01r45csnIKQ-ZsZfVHCQsL444jwwaHbQSI

The archives contain the MSU FMV files, the PCM audio files and the test ROMs. Load the test ROM in your emulator/flash cart to view them.

Relikk wrote:There's two ways of achieving that. The first way would be out of reach for most people here, in that you could port the original FMV. You'd get full screen video, but you're essentially limited to 15 FPS and also limited colours, as everything has to be tile optimised.

Or you can use ikari's video player. There's a tutorial here. You can achieve near enough to full colour 30 FPS using this method, but the main issue is that you can't get full screen video and the output is limited to a letterboxed format, so full screen 4:3 video can look a little bit squashed, but the result is usually good enough.

The MSU file that's generated contains the FMV and can be used with the hack. Cubear or Conn should be able to insert it at the appropriate point. I've already converted some.

This is the first FMV intro from the Saturn version: https://mega.nz/file/tjowACIb#RY8KFHmeSR4FgT7T9-UbnxMDdYjma-D64h59-JoXgrU

Second intro, Saturn version: https://mega.nz/file/kjQDxK6L#mD0Fnlvws2jzFEgaqRNihVxGjHV-wQw1fK9bjEkWaVg

Second intro, PC-FX version: https://mega.nz/file/tyoD0ZJI#XvgMe-jqD01r45csnIKQ-ZsZfVHCQsL444jwwaHbQSI

The archives contain the MSU FMV files, the PCM audio files and the test ROMs. Load the test ROM in your emulator/flash cart to view them.

Thank you, I wanted to do an AI enhancement on the video but it looks like my PC is out of date.

Given the fact that the resolution of the video frames (before being compiled into the MSU file) are 224 x 144, you wouldn't benefit much from "enhancing" it, as such, but I guess trying to get rid of the blockyness of the original FMV would be your main goal here. I can certainly try and see what happens.

I cleaned up the thread and had to delete some posts (sorry for that, but they were obsolete anyways), to have cubear's patch in the first post.

As for the fmv, I am sure it's possible to have e.g. ikari code *somewhere. If it's at boot, it is very easy - if it is somewhere inbetween and splitted as intented for chrono trigger, it will be difficult.
In the end, I think the common interest for this game is not very high so - in my personal opinion - the effort might be higher than the benefit for the community. I'd suggest to have a playable, bug free proven patch first before requesting any fmv decorations

On the Saturn version these FMV's play after the title screen, without progressing by pressing start, and when the game is just left to run.

The SNES version has it's own very short animated intro, so I'd say placing it during boot might be fine. I don't know, though. I'm not remotely familiar with the game.

not that I've done MSU video before, but if the game is doing a fade-to-black change that's gonna wipe vram anyways, it should be possible to hook there and do a video.

Here's the second Saturn intro after being run through a video AI to remove the compression and blocking. See if you can notice a difference.

https://mega.nz/file/wqhkDDQQ#aj8Y_8ZgcesiNAK2Sjr_jLQncQfT_eCkMKflJOnloeA

Here's a comparison video for the first FMV, showing the original and the AI enhanced version. Overall the enhanced version is a lot cleaner, but there's still some artifacting going on.

Relikk wrote:Here's the second Saturn intro after being run through a video AI to remove the compression and blocking. See if you can notice a difference.

https://mega.nz/file/wqhkDDQQ#aj8Y_8ZgcesiNAK2Sjr_jLQncQfT_eCkMKflJOnloeA

Here's a comparison video for the first FMV, showing the original and the AI enhanced version. Overall the enhanced version is a lot cleaner, but there's still some artifacting going on.

Wow , looks, very well. The image is cleaner and more defined.  It is fine to me.
Looks like the orignal has a lot of atifacts, I guess that's why it couldn't be completely removed by the AI.

Just one correction that intro is for Langrisser 1 remake or Warsong on the USA on sega genesis/MD. The Saturn/PSX disc includes 2 games Langrisser 1 and Langrisser 2 (Der langisser)

Relikk wrote:On the Saturn version these FMV's play after the title screen, without progressing by pressing start, and when the game is just left to run.

The SNES version has it's own very short animated intro, so I'd say placing it during boot might be fine. I don't know, though. I'm not remotely familiar with the game.

On playstarion 1 the intro is placed like this, but at the boot looks  fine.

The correct video for Snes would be this.  This is the Langrisser 2 Intro (Der Langrisser)
Play this game a long long time ago when I was a kid, only with a translated guide and I still have the original PSX disc.  

Alrighty. This should be done, so. Here's that FMV, ran through an AI with pretty good results, and converted to MSU FMV. It's about as good as you're going to get it without porting it.

https://mega.nz/file/57hERLLJ#zTSjSzBCuGOsiub_txvDdekHOKVlHWRgSwTwqVm38gE

Relikk wrote:Alrighty. This should be done, so. Here's that FMV, ran through an AI with pretty good results, and converted to MSU FMV. It's about as good as you're going to get it without porting it.

https://mega.nz/file/57hERLLJ#zTSjSzBCuGOsiub_txvDdekHOKVlHWRgSwTwqVm38gE

Looks nice on Retroarch,  also tested on a SD2Snes Revx the chinese one and firmware 1.11, and seems that no work whit this cart, but the starfox MSu1 with the video works well (I dont Know if the Satarfox one video is a tilebased convertion or another form of video convertion.). I think that only works on the Pro version.

Apart from that, the conversion has been very beautiful.

jerrymh wrote:Hello I had some time of not passing by here, I have seen that you have tried to review this rom and I thank you for trying.

I have seen the music of the rom follows this order (https://www.zophar.net/music/nintendo-snes-spc/der-langrisser), so I have given myself the task of making a match with the list of that page.

I leave the file with the complete OST for that rom.

There are difference with a few tracks with the Megadrive. 39 on Snes and 32 on Megadrive. Thank you and I hope this file is of some use.

The files are in Wav format. I think that some files needs normalization on the audio.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/v11m05d8yl15r3z/Langrisser+2+OST+Snes+jerrymh.rar/file

Hellow, I have reedited this file, this would be the correct one for the track 33.
The cause, the SNES version has 2 tracks combined in this track, the music changes after 55 seconds to a track that is not found in any other version of Langrisser, it is exclusive to SNES. I have found a track on the new Langrisser Mobile that suits that particular scene, in fact it is very similar and from what I see it suits it very well.

This is the correct file and is in sync with the intro scene.
33. Opening 1
Updated file.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/7t735m7qgcpvnib/33.Opening+1.wav/file  

This a test for the 2 intros.


Bug:
I have found a sound bug in the SFX, this does not happen with the version without MSU patch.
min 2:56 (some beeps) and min 4:26.  The bug also happends on the real SNES, already tested.

Note:
It has been very difficult for me to place the first 2 tracks since I don't know how to program and I was guided by examples from the page and there are options that I do not understand.
My intention was to test the corrected track.

Question:
At minute 6:00 the track is repeated again. How can I make it so that it only plays the track once and then it goes silent? I know it's an error in my deficient code.
Used this code to convert to MSU (Don't blame please   )
I'm sorry and I wouldn't want to hinder your work with silly questions.

Code:

{
    "$schema": "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/qwertymodo/msupcmplusplus/master/configs/schema#",
    "game": "Derlangrisser",
    "pack": "Creditos",
    "artist": "Nose",
    "url": "no se",
    "normalization": -15,
    "output_prefix": "dl_msu",
    "tracks": [
        {
            "track_number": 35,
            "title": "Opening 2",
            "file": "35.Opening 2.wav",
            "trim_end": 31798928,
            "loop": 31798927
            
                }  
    ]
}


there aren't any noloop tracks defined in the MSU1 code yet, i haven't added them.  i'll look into the sound bug as exampled in your video tomorrow.

jerrymh wrote:tested on a SD2Snes Revx the chinese one and firmware 1.11, and seems that no work whit this cart, but the starfox MSu1 with the video works well (I dont Know if the Satarfox one video is a tilebased convertion or another form of video convertion.).  I think that only works on the Pro version.

Apart from that, the conversion has been very beautiful.

The Star Fox video was doing using the same method as this, but the Der Langrisser FMV works just fine on my SD2SNES with that latest firmware, so it must be an issue with that Chinese clone using that official firmware. Try some older firmware revisions. They might be more compatible with it.

Hello again, Bug report No.2
I have done some tests going testing the gameplay of the first stage.


After finishing the first phase and giving to the AI ​​control of the game the screen goes black and the game freezes.  1:46 on the video. Same on the real Snes.

Already added the tracks 2,11, 21 witch are requiered for the first stage,  and later testing without those tracks.   (I love how it use the SPC if the PCM track is not found)

fixing the glitched voice sfx might require a hard mute for this game, they seem to break whenever the SPC music isn't running.

this will break the SPC fallback unfortunately.

will look into that freeze shortly. it might be caused by the same issue.

updated the first post with a new patch. 

fixed the mute while preserving SPC fallback (thank goodness)
This restores the SFX voices for battle.

fixed the softlock on enemy turn. this was because the ram addresses for fade information was used by the original program

Cubear wrote:updated the first post with a new patch. 

fixed the mute while preserving SPC fallback (thank goodness)
This restores the SFX voices for battle.

fixed the softlock on enemy turn. this was because the ram addresses for fade information was used by the original program

Nice, already tested and it is OK.
Only some note for the track 32.Scenario Clear.wav
It needs to play once and then needs to loop after to 00h:00m:05seg
you can see on 15:15 on the video , the entire track loops with the clear escenario sound so many times. From what I have been able to read, you can make a loop from an audio position, unfortunately I have not been able to make it work with my little knowledge of the subject.

Note:  I have a strange  static sound on the SNES2SD on the 17:24 after  the sound goes to mute.  but cannot reproduce the issue on the snes9x

Managed to clear the stage 2,  seems no problem until now, no freezes unitl now.

Note:  I have a strange  static sound on the SNES2SD on the 17:24 after  the sound goes to mute.  but cannot reproduce the issue on the snes9x

watching the video, I think the game wants to play a "mute track" that doesn't exist (sd2snes wants to play a track with full volume that isn't present and thus plays garbage, snes9x automatically mutes when the track does not exist).

That is I think because cubear nop:ed the error check to fix the other bug... there's 2 possible ways: somehow reuse the error bit but with different adjustments and leave the volume at 0, or to implement a looping mute track. First option is the better one if more such situations but with different tracks exist.

oh lol yeah i think i forgot to turn that back on. it should be fine to reenable that, and i'll post up a patch with that check reinstated in like 6 hours (after work)

as far as making PCMs, especially looping ones, i have little interest in doing them lol.

when i have done them in the past i use audacity to chop up the audio + get the number of samples for the loop point, then wav2msu -l [sample number here] to create the loop.