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Post by Conn Mon 19 Mar 2018 - 14:31

Nice to see you back Very Happy
Guess everything is settles, only the 2 pcm sets needs to be done now Spin
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Post by ArcadeTV Mon 19 Mar 2018 - 15:04

R they missing from my set or from the orhers?
We could easily use my ripped midis to add some different instruments to make it sound like what you want..
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Post by Conn Mon 19 Mar 2018 - 16:10

As far I know your theme set is finished, complete and perfect.
We found 14 Benoit Adam themes:
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ahue7izQZmouimcyPXKLHsbkSB2z

and 4 other remasters:
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AgJQ3nOIZ1n9jhSNZOz7lxLSquc5

for the second set. The missing ones will be substituted with those from your set to make a 2nd "hybrid set".
I do not think your midis need further remastering, they sound perfect as they are Wink

I only hope dani has the time and motivation to pcm both sets (yours+hybrid) Embarassed
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Post by daniloroxette Thu 22 Mar 2018 - 17:34

Hello.

I'm taking a look over the messages right now. Smile
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Post by daniloroxette Thu 22 Mar 2018 - 22:47

Unfortunately, I have no practice with the tools that make the trim / loop / normalization / fade automatically, like the one developed by qwertymodo. In the set's that I made, I work one by one and listen to the results before rendering. Since I did not work with this tool, I opened each wav, searched manually for the indicated trim points, normalized according to the pack I made before and re-rendered it.

I updated the information in the worksheet;
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tGH90ReoVmh01OWZ38X086QZdB7RWTfPDBqly-XE9Hg/edit#gid=0

I did not perform a full test with all the loops and all the volumes, but I think I could have lowered the volume of the songs in the levels.

In the following post, I will put the link to download. Then you can inform me if it is necessary to make some correction. (I will work with the hybrid pack later).
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Post by daniloroxette Thu 22 Mar 2018 - 22:54

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Post by daniloroxette Fri 23 Mar 2018 - 0:20

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Post by Conn Fri 23 Mar 2018 - 7:09

Oh wow, a wish came true Very Happy
Thanks a lot!

As for the hybrid you can simply take the pcm:s by Relikk:

I made a PCM set from that Benoit Adam 2015 Remix if anyone wants to use that for the time being, or if anyone wants to do some testing. Just be aware that there's not enough tracks to cover the entire hack (14 PCM's available out of 30 total).

https://mega.nz/#!oiRVhLCa!qHgvEI87vgFcU4Cs_jt3EzkZbXDDKmNmWYKKYfCvJOY

And now if you'll excuse me, I have a headache from listening to organs all day.
I do not know if they are compatible with your sound level, but I assume it... it will save you a lot of work if they are. If not, here are the wav files:
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ahue7izQZmouimcyPXKLHsbkSB2z

Then you only need to pcm those 4 additional tracks:
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AgJQ3nOIZ1n9jhSNZOz7lxLSquc5
copy/paste the missing ones from Alex... and we are done Very Happy
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Post by daniloroxette Fri 23 Mar 2018 - 13:46

Nice.
Smile

I made some progress in the Hybrid pack, but got some issues in the test;

The 62.wav from Benoit Adam is incorrect.
There's a part of the "Memorial of the Fallen One" in 43.wav that is missing. The looping point returns before reach the voice's part, from 2:11 (Wich I think it's so amazing to let it aside) . I just listened the Benoit's version again and I think it's possible to get it right. (I'll try later).

Well, I'll not subit a link now because I'll need to fix this soon.

Test:
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Post by Relikk Fri 23 Mar 2018 - 14:07

daniloroxette wrote:The 62.wav from Benoit Adam is incorrect.

Should be 32, then.

daniloroxette wrote:There's a part of the "Memorial of the Fallen One" in 43.wav that is missing. The looping point returns before reach the voice's part, from 2:11 (Wich I think it's so amazing to let it aside) . I just listened the Benoit's version again and I think it's possible to get it right. (I'll try later).

I'll fix that now.


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Post by Relikk Fri 23 Mar 2018 - 14:21

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ahue7izQZmouimioIB1NUMUhNbcK

There's a fixed 43. I remember doing that the first time and thinking the loop would sound odd after the voice part, bringing back in such a loud beginning part in comparison.

I extended the part at the end by one bar as it fades out on Benoit's file. The loop point is in the title.
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Post by daniloroxette Fri 23 Mar 2018 - 16:29

Great. TY

The spreadsheet was correct. 62 is only the prelude. Benoit has no version for it. Yours 62.wav was actually 32. So, now, we retrieve 62 from ArcadeTV.

43 is perfect now.

I'm uploading the first version of the pack for analysis.
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Post by daniloroxette Fri 23 Mar 2018 - 16:34



Last edited by daniloroxette on Thu 29 Mar 2018 - 2:04; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : pack link updated with new 19.pcm)
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Post by Conn Fri 23 Mar 2018 - 21:10

WTF
We are done?!?!?!
Small Triforce Thanks a lot, dani and of course Alex and Relikk!!!  Small Triforce

https://www.zeldix.net/t1645-demon-s-crest
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Post by Relikk Sun 25 Mar 2018 - 15:10

19 isn't set to loop. It just cuts off when it's supposed to loop.

There's a little bit of silence on the end of 35 that needs to be trimmed, also. The loop is a little off.
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Post by Conn Sun 25 Mar 2018 - 16:24

Oh Dani informed me:
by daniloroxette on Thu 15 Mar 2018 - 16:50 wrote:The 19.pcm (hex 13) needs to stop looping (it actually do not loop).
So I think here's an old (looping) pcm at start.

Relikk, which sets are affected (only ArcadeTV or also hybrid) with 19 and 35?
I hope dani can fix soon...

Edit:
I think 35 is not supposed to loop according to the doc by dani. I compare and check which tracks mismatch.

Ok according to dani's doc and my code these themes mismatch in terms of looping:
hex dec doc code
23   35   n   y The Hell of Civil War (Ending 01)
25   37   n   y The Throne Refused (Ending 03 & 04)
2b   43   n   y Memorial of the Fallen Ones (Cast Referral)
70   112 n   y Headbutting Game (Headbutting Game)

These 4 tracks are in the code to loop and in the doc to not loop (that's the trouble with 35).
Can please somebody confirm that these 4 themes shall not loop? If so I set them to no in the code and reupload the patch.
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Post by Relikk Sun 25 Mar 2018 - 16:48

Conn wrote:Relikk, which sets are affected (only ArcadeTV or also hybrid) with 19 and 35?

Hybrid. They're both from the Benoit Adam set, and that set was created with one of the older patches. So, 19 probably doesn't loop, but the Benoit Adam track isn't long enough to cover the intro. It'll need to be extended (which is no problem, I can do that) or another track from another set will need to be used.

35 is fine, it's just that there's a problem with the loop in the finished pcm set. There's silence on the end of the file just before the loop point which shouldn't be there, it just throws the loop off a little bit.

I'll look into it tomorrow afternoon when I get home, so don't worry about it just yet.
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Post by Conn Sun 25 Mar 2018 - 16:52

I think 35 shall not loop, so this is the problem here.
19 shall not loop either (that's sure).

Nice, you can upload a non-loop new version for 19 so dani can simply replace it in the hybrid set, for the other 4 tracks (35,37,43,112) mismatching between loop in code and doc, I wait for dani's reply.
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Post by Relikk Sun 25 Mar 2018 - 17:09

Conn wrote:Nice, you can upload a non-loop new version for 19 so dani can simply replace it in the hybrid set

Yeah, I'll need to time the intro to where it cuts off, and then extend it. Easy.
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Post by daniloroxette Sun 25 Mar 2018 - 17:44

Well, on March 13th, somebody (anonymous) changed the info about the looping point on the spreadsheet. I almost undo the changings, because it wasn't told here, but instead, I rechecked the songs and that was correct.

Unfortunetaly, as I told, I didn't verify every looping point on those packs (so, if Relikk made a cut on 19 or 35 to work as a loop, it will not correspond the original reference). The 35 youtube link in the spreadsheet is incomplete. This track is a non-loop.

Even the Headbutting Game (112.pcm) suprises me for being a non-loop theme.

I did not bother asking to change the loop code to non-loop because in the package I tested, as the song was complete, it did not have time to loop (except in 19, where the scene continues with some noises).
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Post by daniloroxette Sun 25 Mar 2018 - 17:51

I updated the 35.pcm original reference link in the spreadsheet with a full version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TBhOm5j-B4
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Post by Conn Sun 25 Mar 2018 - 18:36

It's a bit confusing, but to filter the info:
25   37   n   y The Throne Refused (Ending 03 & 04)
2b   43   n   y Memorial of the Fallen Ones (Cast Referral)
70   112 n   y Headbutting Game (Headbutting Game)
For these 3 themes, it doesn't matter if they loop or not, so the value stays at 03-loop in the code

Theme 35: it does not loop, but in Alex version it is long enough, but not Benoit in the hybrid version.
So I set this theme 35 to non-loop, only change in the new patch:
http://bszelda.zeldalegends.net/stuff/Con/dc_msu1.zip

@Relikk:
Means theme 35 in hybrid will have some more mute seconds at the end (you can extend and upload or just leave it...).
Theme 19 must be extended.

So ok now? Smile

@dani:
I updated the 35.pcm original reference link in the spreadsheet with a full version:
did you also update a pcm set? If yes, which one (I try to keep track with backups...)

I hope SPC and Alex are still ok and only Hybrid needs an update...
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Post by Relikk Sun 25 Mar 2018 - 19:25

daniloroxette wrote:Unfortunetaly, as I told, I didn't verify every looping point on those packs (so, if Relikk made a cut on 19 or 35 to work as a loop, it will not correspond the original reference).

Yeah, that's the problem with my set. They were looped tracks for an older patch version. I should have re-did them before they were submitted for use. My fault entirely.

We'll get it finished. Nearly there.
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Post by daniloroxette Sun 25 Mar 2018 - 21:14

Relikk wrote:I should have re-did them before they were submitted for use. My fault entirely.

There are things we can not predict. The songs that generated the doubts are repetitive and have parts that works like a loop. It's easy to get confused. Glad you noticed that now so we can fix it.

I hope there are no other problems.

I've checked that Memorial of the Fallen Ones actually loops. The annonymous who set it as a non-loop on March, 13th in spreadsheet was wrong.

I believe that's the non-looping ones:

hexpcmlooptitle
1117nCapcom
1319nLegend of Firebrand
2335nThe Hell of Civil War
2436nThe Crests Are Hidden Forever
2537nThe Throne Refused
2c44nThe End - Firebrand Victory
12?63nOpening
?112nHeadbutting Game
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Post by Conn Mon 26 Mar 2018 - 6:31

ok, thanks Smile only differences from your list where it still loops in the code are
25 37 n The Throne Refused
70 112 n Headbutting Game

Let me know whether I shall set them to non-loop as well, or will this result in problems like in theme 19? I do not want to let you rework and upload all themes if not really necessary...
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